I have one question for the CDC and the pharma companies pushing these drugs for straight women as a way of supposedly protecting them. Where are all the straight women dying of AIDS who could have been protected by PrEP? Anyone can see from the straight porn industry that condoms are not exactly used very often. Why aren't women dying like men were back in the 1980s.
I watched yet another interview on that LGBT history channel of a man who said he knew guys that seemed fine and then he found out they had suddenly died.
Whatever was happening back in the 1980s, whatever that phenomena was, it's certainly not happening to straight women, Black or white, now. If it were we'd be hearing about it loud and clear.
Speaking of being 'retained in care', I follow a great science journalist on Twitter, Nina Teicholz. She takes aim at both government food recommendations and the biased junk science they're often based on. She posted this yesterday:
"There is a vast literature on "medication adherence," i.e., how to get people to stay on their pills. The FDA, NIH, AHA etc all promote this, and every behavioral "nudge" is employed to get people to keep taking meds." She links to this:
The more I think about it, the more I think that figuring out exactly what was going on in the eighties and very early nineties is the key to solving this whole thing. And there may be a way to do this.
I wonder if their is a 'key' to 'solve' this 'whole thing'. The HIV industry will forever maraud our subconscious because HIV is a psychological illness imprinted on the majority as a truthful thing. So it is upon each of us to liberate ourselves from the lies, and face the demonology of it...which means working up to a whole-hearted and full-blooded NO to the phantom that has invaded us. HIV is given energy by all those who believe in 'it'.
The more of us who genuinely expunge the lies we live by, on inner level cease in believing it as a 'thing'... the weaker the grip on the collective sub-consciouness of humanity...and eventually truth will out!
I agree that to help process of untanglement from the HIV spell it is helpful to alter perception and perspective by scrutinising what went on in the 1980's. (and it is not easy to research...to access stuff online at least...that has been my experience...probably easier since plandemic has set cat amongst pigeons (of notion of viruses).
Looking at lifestyles of the ill people in the USA, when 'HIV' first became a concept, shows how self-abuse was rampant. In looking at the detail I was quite shocked by (in effect obviously harmful) the degree of masochism (including a lot of pill-popping) pursued in pursuit of unbridled hedonism...by whatever means, aiming for maximum pleasure in the moment.
The 'gay lifestyle' aspect of those with physical illness (and labelled HIV by spurious tests) doesnt pertain to 'African HIV/AIDS'...which has a different imprint on sub-consciousnesses given different cultural/'spiritual' sensibilities and backgrounds (and a propensity to believe what told by the West?). And I think there is likely a lot of simmering undiagnosed malnutrition, and other impacting dynamics I cant know as i wasn't raised on the continent.
But on a basic level it is agreed that 'HIV' is deemed as different kinds of beast according to your location/lifestyle.
What 'way' Rebecca are you pondering 'may be a way' to figure out what was going on in the 80's
"Looking at lifestyles of the ill people in the USA, when 'HIV' first became a concept, shows how self-abuse was rampant. In looking at the detail I was quite shocked by (in effect obviously harmful) the degree of masochism (including a lot of pill-popping) pursued in pursuit of unbridled hedonism...by whatever means, aiming for maximum pleasure in the moment."
Proto-AIDS as Rebecca calls it, was in part a social disease in my opinion. Society cast LGBT people into the gutter and then expected them to be clean. Gay men were essentially outcasts and acted that way, living outside of social constructs (marriage, etc.) that provided a coherence within society.
I know a lot about this because I was raised in a hard core religious environment that outcast all LGBT people, providing no place for us. Meanwhile my straight siblings had all the benefits of the social networks that was there, designed for them to fit into. That included approval and admiration and for marriages, their relationships, etc.
I think partly proto-AIDS has disappeared because in the decades since then, LGBT have gained greater understanding and social integration (2015 marriage equality as an example).
Step2-Blame a phantom based on mass, flawed, unverifiable testing of a population for RNA fragments presumed synonymous with infection by the phantom.
Silence dissent.
Step3-Expand disease definition to include illness previously recognized caused by other or unknown causes thus increasing “case count”.
Silence dissent
Step4-Prescribe toxic treatment like AZT/intubation to increase death count.
Silence dissent
Step5-Insist lifetime less toxic, slower killing “cocktail therapy”/“vaccine boosters” are only protection/defense against often undetectable phantom.
Silence dissent
SARS-cov2/covid19 is hiv/AIDS2.0.
Both are a LIE.
If hepatitis-c is “cured” when no virus is detected why does an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load and t-cell count 600+ require lifetime treatment with a balanced “cocktail” of slow killing, toxic chemotherapeutic drugs that have known side effects that mirror the definition of AIDS?
If an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load went for an AIDS test and didn’t tell that they were previously hiv positive they would be told they were not infected and do not need treatment but would be encouraged to begin the recently released hiv vaccine that requires injection every two months. For the rest of your sexually active life.
As with any profit based business, ensuring return customers is vital for success.
If as is claimed, hiv remains latent, inactive, not reproducing and undetectable in hidden reservoirs how can anyone ever be certain they are not infected and the virus isn’t just inactive and undetectable in hidden reservoirs?
Why isn’t everyone on anti-hiv treatment? Just in case.
If you think about it, there is something going on now, that's almost the opposite of what happened back in the 80s. We have this excess death rate likely from the vax (plus lockdown measures, etc.) that is being essentially ignored by the system. Nothing here to see. It's weird. A handful of men get sick back in the early 80s, and the CDC is all over that. People dying well above averages now, and nothing to see, keep taking the 'safe and effective' product.
I think all the harmaceuticals from big Harma are dangerous , in addition to the most egregious scamdemic Harmacide hacksxxxine injextions needlerape depopulation poison shots....
I think most of the pills will kill you, quickly or slow is the only question, and no doubt the less Harmaceuticals the lowr the Harma
I tend to believe there is a sinister side to it. Besides the profit motive, there is a benefit to some to keep as large a percentage of the population in fear of getting HIV (or covid, flu, shingles, name your malady), keeping as many as possible dependent on medication or vaccines. Plus, we don't fully know what all is in vaccines and medications and what the long term consequences are of being on all these meds. Certainly a docile and dependent populace is attractive to an enemy of the US.
A different opinion be it that Prep is proven to be effective in preventing HIV infection, can't it be that everybody sexual active to take prep let say next 15 years or 20 years no new infections due to prep and most probably 90% of already positive people would have perish so by 2043 or 2045 we will have a HIV free generation maybe that is thinking behind pushing for Prep so hard, is it probably?
We will never be 'HIV free' because there's no virus. the various 'HIV' tests are surrogate markers that react for a wide range of things, you can't ever get past that. There will always be people who test positive because of this. This is why PrEP is a scam.
Do you propose that “let say next 15 years or 20 years” of every sexually active person continually taking “Prep” treatment as preventative against a theoretical “hiv” will result in the phantom no longer maintaining the magical ability to remain inactive, non-reproducing and undetectable in “hidden reservoirs”?
One way or another this must come to an end 40 years still we have new infections while having prevention method sure condoms have failed due to lack of use if what I read 3 days ago have anything to do with it
Maybe one way would be to stop wasting money testing for an often undetectable phantom that has NEVER BEEN FOUND IN A PATIENT but is only diagnosed based on non-specific biological markers NEVER SHOWN TO CAUSE DISEASE but are considered synonymous with infection. Then, instead of money being used to make pharmaceutical companies even more mega wealthy that money could be used to improve the poor living conditions and lack of sanitation that leads to immune failure disease and death.
It's not about religion now, 3 days ago I came across an article about how young black South African woman in general don't like condoms between 15 - 24 of age now these are people in the prime of their lives, if you target this group in prevention medicine obviously the next 20 years HIV will be history provided that the efficiency and not harmful Prep is available, our beliefs mine and yours whether HIV exist or not is irrelevant if we have 40 millions said to be living with HIV, and 30 millions said to have died from it,Brother Strawberry my work environment convinced me that it does your experience convinced you it doesn't
Again, how do you demonstrate an above normal expected mortality of “30 millions” in a population that has more than doubled since prediction of being decimated by a sexually transmitted phantom?
I believe we are both religious on our views, I believe and you also believe on your view of HIV not existing, so all of us have a particular belief shaped by our social environment, mine in existence of HIV is shaped by my daily experience of HIV on my work & social environment, close families, colleagues and prisoners that have succumbed to HIV that is what shaped my belief, I never real thought of it that much I never knew the was any possible explanation of HIV or questions about it's existence by people like you and many others, how I don't believe if just recently that a loved one test positive due to be exposed by the selfish boyfriend who didn't use protection, condoms, Prep or pep, these are things I didn't pay much attention to.
Unfortunately I haven't come a conclusive evidence of no existence of the Virus, most no virus camp talk about toxic environment and malnutrition that to me is old story we are faced with on daily bases, but not every one faced with those is HIV positive
Excuse me for writing without a particular sequence I just trying to cover everything on my Belief
How do you explain failure of the phantom to as promised nearly 40 years ago “explode into general population” in developed nations but remain primarily restricted to original risk groups testing and treating for the often undetectable phantom?
Perhaps because the general population is not being tested for non-specific biological markers never demonstrated to cause disease. Perhaps because the general population in developed countries are not gobbling down ARV anti-hiv medicine while the only people dying from “AIDS” forty years into this non-spreading “epidemic” that behaves like no other supposedly infectious disease are gobbling down toxic drugs purported to stop “hiv” from reproducing.
Excuse me but we are not “both religious on our views”.
I am not the one preaching fear of theoretical phantom demons or faith in snake oil saviors.
Condoms and ARVs are to you what masks and experimental mRNA injections are to the Branch Covidians and what rosary beads and holy water are to the beLIEver of that religion.
The 1984 proposed theory of hiv as cause of sexually transmitted epidemic immune failure disease is your religion.
The hiv phantom is your Satan figure.
Lifetime ARVs are your savior/god.
The phantom/Satan has never been proven to exist or cause disease.
In fact, infection/possession by your Satan can never be demonstrated true because “hiv” has never been isolated from a patient and infection or “viral load” are only presumed based on symptoms or lack thereof and non-specific biological markers so just as the excorcism of demons only occurs by faith of the believer of that fable, eradication of “hiv” from a body or a population it can never actually be proven to have inhabited is purely a matter of faith. Stop religion before it kills again.
Why would we invest so much and risk so much harm for an "HIV free future" when it's clear that HIV/AIDS is a con? The actual science does not support the dubious goal of eradicating anything. That flavor of receding horizon seems reserved only for maintaining the flow of public dollars into private coffers in all war machines- whether traditional military industrial complex or the newly emerging biomedical/military industrial complex.
What I mean primarily are all the people harmed by the drugs deployed - often under cover of "trials" lacking proper disclosures and informed consent at an HIV "diagnose" even, and especially, absent symptoms.. See orphaned babies in NYC, see all kinds of shady stuff in Africa. Also see how pregnancy is one cause of false-positive PCR which triggered the imposition of toxic drugs on the vulnerable. We can talk sources - but much is conveniently indexed by RFK jr.team.
How is “Viral suppressed” the same as “HIV free” if despite having undetectable viral load a lifetime of strict adherence to medicinal treatment is required to maintain that status?
But you don’t see that you are condemning everyone to a lifetime of addiction slavery to pharma/gov?
Yes to a particular point, then you'll be able to have a HIV free generation, viral suppressed and HIV free are not the same, viral suppressed without meds can revived so to speak
HOW IS UNDETECTABLE WITH THE MOST POWERFUL AMPLIFICATION PROCESS KNOW TO MAN SOMEHOW NOT hiv FREE?
If the phantom is undetectable because it is latent, inactive and not reproducing in hidden reservoirs how can anyone ever be certain that they are hiv free?
I have one question for the CDC and the pharma companies pushing these drugs for straight women as a way of supposedly protecting them. Where are all the straight women dying of AIDS who could have been protected by PrEP? Anyone can see from the straight porn industry that condoms are not exactly used very often. Why aren't women dying like men were back in the 1980s.
I watched yet another interview on that LGBT history channel of a man who said he knew guys that seemed fine and then he found out they had suddenly died.
Whatever was happening back in the 1980s, whatever that phenomena was, it's certainly not happening to straight women, Black or white, now. If it were we'd be hearing about it loud and clear.
Speaking of being 'retained in care', I follow a great science journalist on Twitter, Nina Teicholz. She takes aim at both government food recommendations and the biased junk science they're often based on. She posted this yesterday:
"There is a vast literature on "medication adherence," i.e., how to get people to stay on their pills. The FDA, NIH, AHA etc all promote this, and every behavioral "nudge" is employed to get people to keep taking meds." She links to this:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0738399108004655
"“I don’t know how many of these [medicines] are necessary..”—A focus group study among elderly users of multiple medicines"
Ultimately, I think the pharma companies are just looking for a cash flow, and the CDC is just an arm of those companies at this point.
The more I think about it, the more I think that figuring out exactly what was going on in the eighties and very early nineties is the key to solving this whole thing. And there may be a way to do this.
I wonder if their is a 'key' to 'solve' this 'whole thing'. The HIV industry will forever maraud our subconscious because HIV is a psychological illness imprinted on the majority as a truthful thing. So it is upon each of us to liberate ourselves from the lies, and face the demonology of it...which means working up to a whole-hearted and full-blooded NO to the phantom that has invaded us. HIV is given energy by all those who believe in 'it'.
The more of us who genuinely expunge the lies we live by, on inner level cease in believing it as a 'thing'... the weaker the grip on the collective sub-consciouness of humanity...and eventually truth will out!
I agree that to help process of untanglement from the HIV spell it is helpful to alter perception and perspective by scrutinising what went on in the 1980's. (and it is not easy to research...to access stuff online at least...that has been my experience...probably easier since plandemic has set cat amongst pigeons (of notion of viruses).
Looking at lifestyles of the ill people in the USA, when 'HIV' first became a concept, shows how self-abuse was rampant. In looking at the detail I was quite shocked by (in effect obviously harmful) the degree of masochism (including a lot of pill-popping) pursued in pursuit of unbridled hedonism...by whatever means, aiming for maximum pleasure in the moment.
The 'gay lifestyle' aspect of those with physical illness (and labelled HIV by spurious tests) doesnt pertain to 'African HIV/AIDS'...which has a different imprint on sub-consciousnesses given different cultural/'spiritual' sensibilities and backgrounds (and a propensity to believe what told by the West?). And I think there is likely a lot of simmering undiagnosed malnutrition, and other impacting dynamics I cant know as i wasn't raised on the continent.
But on a basic level it is agreed that 'HIV' is deemed as different kinds of beast according to your location/lifestyle.
What 'way' Rebecca are you pondering 'may be a way' to figure out what was going on in the 80's
"Looking at lifestyles of the ill people in the USA, when 'HIV' first became a concept, shows how self-abuse was rampant. In looking at the detail I was quite shocked by (in effect obviously harmful) the degree of masochism (including a lot of pill-popping) pursued in pursuit of unbridled hedonism...by whatever means, aiming for maximum pleasure in the moment."
Proto-AIDS as Rebecca calls it, was in part a social disease in my opinion. Society cast LGBT people into the gutter and then expected them to be clean. Gay men were essentially outcasts and acted that way, living outside of social constructs (marriage, etc.) that provided a coherence within society.
I know a lot about this because I was raised in a hard core religious environment that outcast all LGBT people, providing no place for us. Meanwhile my straight siblings had all the benefits of the social networks that was there, designed for them to fit into. That included approval and admiration and for marriages, their relationships, etc.
I think partly proto-AIDS has disappeared because in the decades since then, LGBT have gained greater understanding and social integration (2015 marriage equality as an example).
Shame kills.
Here you go.
The first two papers should be required reading.
https://www.duesberg.com/papers/index.html
Step1-Identify cluster of deaths.
Step2-Blame a phantom based on mass, flawed, unverifiable testing of a population for RNA fragments presumed synonymous with infection by the phantom.
Silence dissent.
Step3-Expand disease definition to include illness previously recognized caused by other or unknown causes thus increasing “case count”.
Silence dissent
Step4-Prescribe toxic treatment like AZT/intubation to increase death count.
Silence dissent
Step5-Insist lifetime less toxic, slower killing “cocktail therapy”/“vaccine boosters” are only protection/defense against often undetectable phantom.
Silence dissent
SARS-cov2/covid19 is hiv/AIDS2.0.
Both are a LIE.
If hepatitis-c is “cured” when no virus is detected why does an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load and t-cell count 600+ require lifetime treatment with a balanced “cocktail” of slow killing, toxic chemotherapeutic drugs that have known side effects that mirror the definition of AIDS?
If an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load went for an AIDS test and didn’t tell that they were previously hiv positive they would be told they were not infected and do not need treatment but would be encouraged to begin the recently released hiv vaccine that requires injection every two months. For the rest of your sexually active life.
As with any profit based business, ensuring return customers is vital for success.
If as is claimed, hiv remains latent, inactive, not reproducing and undetectable in hidden reservoirs how can anyone ever be certain they are not infected and the virus isn’t just inactive and undetectable in hidden reservoirs?
Why isn’t everyone on anti-hiv treatment? Just in case.
For the common good.
How are people not seeing through this bs?
If you think about it, there is something going on now, that's almost the opposite of what happened back in the 80s. We have this excess death rate likely from the vax (plus lockdown measures, etc.) that is being essentially ignored by the system. Nothing here to see. It's weird. A handful of men get sick back in the early 80s, and the CDC is all over that. People dying well above averages now, and nothing to see, keep taking the 'safe and effective' product.
Obfuscation at the highest levels. It’s very alarming.
Wonder if Nina has a SS 🤔
Love her work
I think all the harmaceuticals from big Harma are dangerous , in addition to the most egregious scamdemic Harmacide hacksxxxine injextions needlerape depopulation poison shots....
I think most of the pills will kill you, quickly or slow is the only question, and no doubt the less Harmaceuticals the lowr the Harma
I tend to believe there is a sinister side to it. Besides the profit motive, there is a benefit to some to keep as large a percentage of the population in fear of getting HIV (or covid, flu, shingles, name your malady), keeping as many as possible dependent on medication or vaccines. Plus, we don't fully know what all is in vaccines and medications and what the long term consequences are of being on all these meds. Certainly a docile and dependent populace is attractive to an enemy of the US.
This reminds me of when the HPV jab was pushed from just girls to young boys also. Anything to increase uptake of poisons.
A different opinion be it that Prep is proven to be effective in preventing HIV infection, can't it be that everybody sexual active to take prep let say next 15 years or 20 years no new infections due to prep and most probably 90% of already positive people would have perish so by 2043 or 2045 we will have a HIV free generation maybe that is thinking behind pushing for Prep so hard, is it probably?
We will never be 'HIV free' because there's no virus. the various 'HIV' tests are surrogate markers that react for a wide range of things, you can't ever get past that. There will always be people who test positive because of this. This is why PrEP is a scam.
Do you propose that “let say next 15 years or 20 years” of every sexually active person continually taking “Prep” treatment as preventative against a theoretical “hiv” will result in the phantom no longer maintaining the magical ability to remain inactive, non-reproducing and undetectable in “hidden reservoirs”?
How is this not your religion?
One way or another this must come to an end 40 years still we have new infections while having prevention method sure condoms have failed due to lack of use if what I read 3 days ago have anything to do with it
“One way or another”...
Here’s a thought.
Maybe one way would be to stop wasting money testing for an often undetectable phantom that has NEVER BEEN FOUND IN A PATIENT but is only diagnosed based on non-specific biological markers NEVER SHOWN TO CAUSE DISEASE but are considered synonymous with infection. Then, instead of money being used to make pharmaceutical companies even more mega wealthy that money could be used to improve the poor living conditions and lack of sanitation that leads to immune failure disease and death.
Just a thought.
It's not about religion now, 3 days ago I came across an article about how young black South African woman in general don't like condoms between 15 - 24 of age now these are people in the prime of their lives, if you target this group in prevention medicine obviously the next 20 years HIV will be history provided that the efficiency and not harmful Prep is available, our beliefs mine and yours whether HIV exist or not is irrelevant if we have 40 millions said to be living with HIV, and 30 millions said to have died from it,Brother Strawberry my work environment convinced me that it does your experience convinced you it doesn't
Again, how do you demonstrate an above normal expected mortality of “30 millions” in a population that has more than doubled since prediction of being decimated by a sexually transmitted phantom?
hiv/AIDS is your religion and you are a zealous proselytizer.
Clearly you suffer from the delusion of religious fanaticism.
I believe we are both religious on our views, I believe and you also believe on your view of HIV not existing, so all of us have a particular belief shaped by our social environment, mine in existence of HIV is shaped by my daily experience of HIV on my work & social environment, close families, colleagues and prisoners that have succumbed to HIV that is what shaped my belief, I never real thought of it that much I never knew the was any possible explanation of HIV or questions about it's existence by people like you and many others, how I don't believe if just recently that a loved one test positive due to be exposed by the selfish boyfriend who didn't use protection, condoms, Prep or pep, these are things I didn't pay much attention to.
Unfortunately I haven't come a conclusive evidence of no existence of the Virus, most no virus camp talk about toxic environment and malnutrition that to me is old story we are faced with on daily bases, but not every one faced with those is HIV positive
Excuse me for writing without a particular sequence I just trying to cover everything on my Belief
How do you explain failure of the phantom to as promised nearly 40 years ago “explode into general population” in developed nations but remain primarily restricted to original risk groups testing and treating for the often undetectable phantom?
Perhaps because the general population is not being tested for non-specific biological markers never demonstrated to cause disease. Perhaps because the general population in developed countries are not gobbling down ARV anti-hiv medicine while the only people dying from “AIDS” forty years into this non-spreading “epidemic” that behaves like no other supposedly infectious disease are gobbling down toxic drugs purported to stop “hiv” from reproducing.
American story that one in South Africa everyone is at risk, general population everyone in particular women
What illness causing phantoms and demons or health giving pharmaceutigods have I fervently and passionately expressed blind faith beLIEf in?
I have no religion.
Excuse me but we are not “both religious on our views”.
I am not the one preaching fear of theoretical phantom demons or faith in snake oil saviors.
Condoms and ARVs are to you what masks and experimental mRNA injections are to the Branch Covidians and what rosary beads and holy water are to the beLIEver of that religion.
The 1984 proposed theory of hiv as cause of sexually transmitted epidemic immune failure disease is your religion.
The hiv phantom is your Satan figure.
Lifetime ARVs are your savior/god.
The phantom/Satan has never been proven to exist or cause disease.
In fact, infection/possession by your Satan can never be demonstrated true because “hiv” has never been isolated from a patient and infection or “viral load” are only presumed based on symptoms or lack thereof and non-specific biological markers so just as the excorcism of demons only occurs by faith of the believer of that fable, eradication of “hiv” from a body or a population it can never actually be proven to have inhabited is purely a matter of faith. Stop religion before it kills again.
Ohk
By 2045 those already positive would have already died or Viral suppressed so HIV free future is possible in that fashion
Why would we invest so much and risk so much harm for an "HIV free future" when it's clear that HIV/AIDS is a con? The actual science does not support the dubious goal of eradicating anything. That flavor of receding horizon seems reserved only for maintaining the flow of public dollars into private coffers in all war machines- whether traditional military industrial complex or the newly emerging biomedical/military industrial complex.
Much harm do you care to explain?
What I mean primarily are all the people harmed by the drugs deployed - often under cover of "trials" lacking proper disclosures and informed consent at an HIV "diagnose" even, and especially, absent symptoms.. See orphaned babies in NYC, see all kinds of shady stuff in Africa. Also see how pregnancy is one cause of false-positive PCR which triggered the imposition of toxic drugs on the vulnerable. We can talk sources - but much is conveniently indexed by RFK jr.team.
Hey - sorry for delay - I was at work all day.
One has to work, beside our time zone are different
How is “Viral suppressed” the same as “HIV free” if despite having undetectable viral load a lifetime of strict adherence to medicinal treatment is required to maintain that status?
But you don’t see that you are condemning everyone to a lifetime of addiction slavery to pharma/gov?
What I meant by viral suppressed I mean undetectable that simple say that person can't transmit or infect another person
Rather let's say as the terminology use undectable
Yes to a particular point, then you'll be able to have a HIV free generation, viral suppressed and HIV free are not the same, viral suppressed without meds can revived so to speak
HOW IS UNDETECTABLE WITH THE MOST POWERFUL AMPLIFICATION PROCESS KNOW TO MAN SOMEHOW NOT hiv FREE?
If the phantom is undetectable because it is latent, inactive and not reproducing in hidden reservoirs how can anyone ever be certain that they are hiv free?