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Jo Waller's avatar

'Could these drugs be altering bio markers that have nothing to do with “HIV” at all? It’s an intriguing possibility with potentially enormous implications.'

Indeed the biomarker (antibody to p24) said to indicate 'HIV" has never been shown to have anything to do with 'HIV'. This could definitely have enormous implications. PrEP will certainly produce an imbalance in the body which the p24 is often associated with

The PCR cannot be used for 'viral load' as there are so many genomes (millions) so it's completely pot luck whether the primers chosen in a test find any 'HIV" sequences in a particular patient.

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I've been suspecting this for a long time. PrEP is a kind of slight of hand. It's like you take a drug that makes you not smell a certain smell, and you walk into a room with that smell, and you think the molecules of that smell aren't present because you can't smell them. PrEP is doing the same thing, it's just masking biomarkers that are interpreted as 'HIV'. This leads to an interesting question as to whether the people developing these drugs at the pharmaceutical companies actually know 'HIV' is a sham and have developed drugs that mask becoming 'positive'.

"The virus was detected, however, using a quantitative test, COBAS AmpliPrep/TaqMan HIV-1 Test kit, with HIV-1 RNA level below the lower limit of detection (<20 copies/mL)"

Yeah, that's just preposterous. Below 20 copies/mL is arbitrarily set anyway, so if you don't like 19 copies/mL as your result, well then you just willy-nilly declare that 19 is enough to be infected. Why not 2 copies/mL or even 1 as indicating positive?

"if PrEP has the potential to cause “low or undetectable viral loads” during “acute infection,” how then does the patient manage to “seroconvert” at all?"

Yes, I was wondering this exact thing. Either PrEP suppresses 'HIV' and prevents it from taking hold, as measured by a person going in and getting an antibody screening text every 3 months; or it doesn't. They're in denial about the randomness of these tests trying desperately to make them somehow consistent.

"Could these drugs be altering bio markers that have nothing to do with “HIV” at all? It’s an intriguing possibility with potentially enormous implications."

Yes, I've already mentioned this as something I've wondered about in other posts.

Regarding 'acute retroviral syndrome', it's funny because people get sick all the time for who knows what reasons, but I suppose if you're having a lot of sex then you can only get sick by a virus passed through sex now.

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