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Christoph.'s avatar

I think the background viral activation he talks about is really just markers for toxicity. He's very old-school from the virus standpoint and believes that 'detection' of viruses (antibody tests, etc.), means there's really a virus there. I think all the activation being measured was simply the over-active immune system. We know for 'HIV' that all kinds of things, scores of things, cause a 'cross-reaction' on its antibody tests. Why would it be any different for all the other supposed viruses. So that's how I hear what he's saying, that suddenly people were having all this 'viral activation'. The question is, what's going on that's suddenly causing all this toxic load in people? He mentions dairy as one particular one. Dairy began to be supplemented with vitamin A. Turns out it's not a vitamin at all, but a toxin in the food supply. Our bodies know how to handle it to a degree. We have a protein called retinol binding protein that protects us from this supposed vitamin. But there's a lot of research showing that the high your RBP4 levels are the more sick you are and it's associated with a lot of illness conditions. You should interview Grant Genereaux, he cured himself of end-stage kidney disease, and a host of other illness, including intractable fatigue, by eliminated 'vitamin' A from his diet. He's got a blog and has written several free e-books on the subject. Here's an interview with him just last week: youtube.com/watch?v=iVjSveyyRwg

One of the things that was happening concurrently to this rise in chronic fatigue and other things the neuro immune doctor you're interviewing was the beginning of our modern obesity epidemic. The body protects itself from toxins it can't detoxify by storing them in fat tissue. And 'vitamin' A, the excessive amount we get in our diets through over-consumption of high 'A' foods, along with it being added to foods like diary (and even common breakfast cereals) is causing a lot of problems in our modern age including obesity.

I think there's a lot going on and some people are like the proverbial canaries in the mine shaft, they're more sensitive to the slowly encroaching toxic loads in our daily lives.

Gay men started to get sick in the 1970s because they were overloaded from a toxicological standpoint, but this just made them the easily visible tip of the iceberg.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

Vitamins are fascinating to me. They are not related chemically at all - some are acids (vitamin C); some are in a totally different class. They somehow got placed under the same umbrella. They’re like the non sporting group of molecular compounds. (Dog joke)

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Christoph.'s avatar

Yes agree. I think the only really important “vitamins” are the minerals. Magnesium, zinc, potassium, calcium and trace minerals like molybdenum. I do take a bit of B1 too. I think most everything else is a waste.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

All this talk about diet makes me feel like my diet of mostly meat and eggs maybe isn’t so bad.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

Also, I feel like the word “virus” isn’t terribly well-defined. We’re full of virus-like particles—they assist in evolution—yet what an “infectious” virus is seems to me to be poorly defined.

What I like so much about Goldberg is the possibility that there may be real treatment for these children, and for CFS patients, who have been all but forgotten by both mainstream and alternative medicine.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

When I think of “viral activation” I think of dormant viruses/exosomes being “reactivated” due to stress. He wasn’t saying this is necessarily contagious, if you pay attention.

I’ll check out Generaux (that sounds so French Canadian) - thank you!

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Christoph.'s avatar

Grant is actually Canadian. And following on the interview, Grant indeed cured himself by following an elimination diet. That was the very strategy that worked for him. He talks about having been a big dairy consumer, and now eats none.

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Christoph.'s avatar

Yeah, I think the exosome angle is quite possible. It's like the body is responding to something and whatever these exosomes do, their activation is being seen as perhaps the cause of illnesses when in fact they're likely the end result of things going on.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

That’s certainly the case for “HIV.”

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Calvin Perrins's avatar

So called viruses and exosomes have never been proven to be anything specific at all. They're just cell debris pictured in a toxic soup.

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Elena's avatar

I can’t wait to listen! Also, love the green you’re wearing!

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iterating Roger W.'s avatar

Wonderful conversation!

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LW's avatar

All these conditions are caused by vaccines (viruses are a lie). Stop vaccines and all these issues go away. It’s so simple it’s gobsmacking but people are so brainwashed into germ theory.

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Ian luce's avatar

Hi Rebecca I would like to share this video Sam Bailey sent through to me, although we both come from the back ground of "no virus" this video gives clear understanding of the function of aluminum adjuvants in vaccines and how they trigger autoimmune disease especially the gardisel vaccine featured in the video, there are many people in this video what might help you in your own research in autoimmune disease, the sheep study is a very interesting part of the video where they complete a study testing a sheep vaccine with two control groups a saline containing nothing and one containing the adjuvants, interesting to see the results, it also contains a report on two women who participated in the gardisel trials, both with autoimmune disease, one received the vaccine and the other a saline placebo, she later found out the placebo contained also the adjuvants. Very well worth the watch.

https://unterdiehaut.online/en/?download_file=2342&order=wc_order_PN9PUH3Xu93Wf&uid=8bc05d673d0f6d6b4709715e469ca670ef04f76f27f4b7589bcf6350ab7332f9&key=6264e879-91a3-4a28-a25a-09c4431fc8da

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Ian luce's avatar

Interesting you mentioned in a video about male douching, interesting douches also contain aluminum sulphates I just found out

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