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Christoph.'s avatar

It's interesting to read the comments of the second ad in particular. They're generally negative and in fact many people thought the ad was a parody, LOL. But it's true that the ads target the mindset or stereotype of gay men being hyper-sexualized. It's true there is a fraction of people who are that way, but the economics of Truvada/Descovy won't survive on the backs of this subset. So of course they have to go after other demographics.

I've been re-reading the Perth Groups analysis of Montagnier and Gallo's papers, and it really is shocking that the whole world bought into this despite the absolutely crappy 'evidence' they presented. Montagnier took the lymph node of ONE guy in France, detected reverse transcription activity in a culture and declared it was a new virus. Gallo pooled the serum of 10 guys (because he couldn't get a sufficient reaction from any one), injected it into a rabbit to produce an immune response, took the serum of the rabbit and reacted it to an 'infected' culture put into a density gradient, and whatever the rabbits antibodies reacted to he claimed they were 'viral proteins'. That's the foundation of 'HIV' research.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

Also, I noticed that in the first ad they mention that Truvada alone may not be enough and encourage condom use. That disappeared real quick.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

And as PG has pointed out, HOW in the HELL did Gallo have the rabbit antibody PRIOR to “isolating ‘HIV’?”

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X man's avatar

Christoph what would it take for you and others that HIV is real i mean it's now 40 years on, we might not see the virus with naked eyes or whatever other means, how do you explain a situation of a person who is HIV positive sleeping with HIV negative and that negative person became positive why not the other way around, how is transmission take placce if there's no virus? How is those declared positive and are without treatment shows symptoms associated with the virus, i have lost anout 3 close relatives and many friends I've lost count of, about 8 millions in South Africa survive on Arv's, in my work environment i can estimate about 110 out of 460 people take treatment daily. A close friend recently tested positive after several several unprotected sex with a boyfriend who didn't declare his status to her,

Maybe the treatment have side effects maybe prep does have sides effects, but HIV is real and kills if untreated this i based on physical conditions that im exposed to on daily bases. All other science between mai stream and dissident views doesn't realy help when we as African people dies and huge monies are used to deal with this invisible enemy, maybe prep is our only hope with 95/95/95 strategy will get us t0 2030 as a promised year by Bill Gates and other powerful gurus in USA those big guns who calculate the viral loads and develop life saving treatment, we did have this effective treatment in the early 2000s and early years, people where give vitamins B

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Christoph.'s avatar

The 5 papers by Montagnier and Gallo in 1983/84 lacked evidence for a new virus. In fact there was evidence that there was no virus. You can't escape this. A house is only as strong as its foundation. In those 5 foundational papers, what evidence in them convinces you a new virus that destroys the immune system was found?

You should also do a search for human viral transmission studies. They repeatedly fail to demonstrate that exposing a healthy person to a sick person makes the healthy person sick.

Transmission is an assumption. The Perth Group have shown that the signals claimed as evidence for transmission, for example antibody test reactivity, can be found all over the place in 'uninfected' people. Reactivity to P24 was the evidence used to 'prove' someone was infected with 'HIV' at the beginning of AIDS, until it was demonstrated that too many people who were deemed uninfected had antibodies to P24.

What Gallo and Montagnier found were signals that often show up in sick people or people at risk for illness, not so different than how the humble thermometer detects fever, and yet a fever is quite non-specific.

Neither Gallo nor Montagnier found a virus, the evidence they presented was totally lacking in this regard.

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Chris's avatar

In my mind, all Blackrock Vanguard ESG-infected advertising now looks like the gay porn orgy ad. It is all truly grotesque.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

If I were a gay man, I’d be offended by the last advertisement. It’s way too over the top.

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Chris's avatar

My point exactly.

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Tsuyoshi Matsuo's avatar

I think what they mean by “efficacy reaches almost 99%” is that it almost always prevents something that doesn’t even exist.

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Mothers Grim's avatar

To me they are lifestyle campaigns for industry. It was 2016 when Gilead pushed on the 'trans' cohort. They moved from Tumblr and print to TV on this agenda in 2018.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/06/gileads-new-tv-ads-prep-will-unique-include-gay-trans-people/

There is a lot of imagery in those ads like the triangle decal on the front door, etc.

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

I noticed the triangle decal.

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Marilyn Langlois's avatar

These ads are sick. But it's kinda cute how one of them mentions in passing that PrEP won't prevent pregnancy.....

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Rebecca Culshaw Smith's avatar

That made me giggle too.

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