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Christoph.'s avatar

"HIV/AIDS" was built on a handful of papers published in 1984/5 that were not peer-reviewed and published for the scientific community to vet BEFORE the government declared they were the correct scientific basis for declaring the known cause, at a press conference. It's probably the most egregious case of 'science by press release' we have.

Worse, Gallo and his lab were found to have committed scientific 'misconduct' (softened version of fraud) because the lab books and the data within them were different from what was published in the papers.

https://archive.nytimes.com/query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage-9F0CEFDA103DF932A05751C1A964958260.html

"As to the many errors in the 1984 paper, which was co-authored with Dr. Popovic, the report concluded, "In light of his role as senior author, Dr. Gallo must bear substantial responsibility for the numerous discrepancies, including four instances of scientific misconduct attributed to Dr. Popovic."

"On the standards of Dr. Gallo's laboratory record-keeping, the report said, "Especially in light of the groundbreaking nature of this research and its profound public health implications, O.R.I. believes that the careless and unacceptable keeping of research records reflects irresponsible laboratory management that has permanently impaired the ability to trace the important steps taken."

RFK knows this history.

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X man's avatar

What was Gallo sin here was it to claim he discovered the virus? Iso there's no dispute about existence of the virus so why people translate this trial as if the was no virus at all

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Christoph.'s avatar

Neither Gallo nor Montagnier provided proof in those papers for the existence of a new virus.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Can you provide certified purified isolate of hiv obtained from a patient suffering AIDS?

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X man's avatar

There's something whether purified or not that makes people sick transmitted bodily fluids like blood, semen they call that HIV purified isolated or not it's there

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Here is science, extensively researched fact and verifiable data. The chemical bases of the various AIDS epidemics: recreational drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy and malnutrition https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12799487/

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

Are you seriously completely unaware that you sound identical to a religious zealot insisting “proof of” their “god is all around us”? That ain’t science. Here. Learn something. AIDS Since 1984: No Evidence for a New Viral Epidemic-Not Even In Africa http://www.duesberg.com/articles/Duesberg%20et%20al_AIDS%20since%201984%20No%20evidence%20for%20a%20new%20viral%20epidemic%20not%20even%20in%20Africa_IJAE_2011.pdf

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X man's avatar

Duesberg theory has not been proven as we speak lose to 9 millions are said to be HIV positive in South Africa alone

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

you insist “Duesberg theory has not been proven” yet EVERYTHING he proposed that would/could prove his theory true has been spot on accurate.

When, where, how and by who do you propose the hiv theory was proven true?

When, as proposed the original estimated number of one million hiv infected americans doubled annually?

Didn’t happen.

Current estimate after 40 years is 1.2 million.

When as predicted hiv exploded into general population infecting “one in five heterosexuals “ by 1990?

Didn’t happen.

After 40 years the phantom remains primarily restricted to original risk groups testing and treating for the often undetectable phantom while nearly every other sexually transmitted infection increased regularly in general population.

Was the hiv theory proven when as predicted 1/3 or more of the population of Africa was decimated by hiv by the year 2000?

Didn’t happen.

Despite unending famine, drought, endemic disease and genocidal conflict the population of Africa, and especially the most poverty stricken sub-sahaharan region has more than doubled.

Was the hiv theory proven true when preventative vaccine and curative treatment were developed quickly?

Hasn’t happened yet.

Treatment for “hiv” is a “cocktail therapy” of toxic medicines carefully balancing the deadly adverse reactions to the chemotherapy that they are and must be taken for life even if “viral load” of the phantom is undetectable.

If the hiv theory was true and correct, we would, as the theory predicted, all be dead by now.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

The hiv theory has not been proven and as we type EVERYTHING THAT WOULD OR COULD PROVE IT TRUE HAS FAILED. The hiv theory is a failure.

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Brother🍓 Strawberry's avatar

If hiv is so rampant and spreads heterosexually where it supposedly originated how do you explain that the population of Africa, and especially the most poverty stricken Sub-Saharan region has more than doubled since 1984 prediction of demise? It would seem that based on fact and verifiable data “hiv” is responsible for the fastest growing population in known history. Explain how that is possible.

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JohnS's avatar

Rebecca, it seems to me that Unz is somewhat overstating the case that Kennedy makes in the book. Kennedy isn't saying AIDS is a hoax, he's saying that HIV as the cause of AIDS is a hoax and that it's more of a lifestyle affliction than a disease spread via the sharing of bodily fluids.

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Ronald Evans's avatar

That is interesting, but I'm sure the media is being told not to touch it with a 10 foot pole. With the amount of prep ads on TV as well as other medications big pharma could sink a network in a heartbeat. Unless RFK Jr knows something else that he hasn't publicly disclosed, that he's keeping close to the vest, as some type of poison pill.

As much as I would love to see it, sadly, I don't believe the HIV/AIDS issue will crumble. Even though more people are becoming aware of what's going on, which is great, I believe a majority either a) don't care, b) still have blind faith in the medical establishment or c) make their living in the system. The top brass of big pharma and the regulatory agencies know this and use it to their advantage. All we can do on an individual level is become as well informed as we can. And then, who knows?

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X man's avatar

I fully agree with you Sir HIV /AIDS will never fall currently there's UNAiDS target for the world known as 95/95 /95, with declaration by Bill Gates that this must be reached by 2030

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Shawn Pitcher's avatar

Covid, Aids, Atherosclerosis, and list goes on. We should at least acknowledge the contributions of Rockefeller and Carnegie in all of this.

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Tom Busse's avatar

I would steer clear of publicly discussing Ron Unz. He has good stuff and once really changed the world with his pushback against bilingual education. The problem is he has a-lot of gratuitous Holocaust denialism stuff on his website (i.e. Andrew Anglin), and as much as I personally think there is room for some revisionism by qualified historians, it's an association you don't want.

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R!CKYRANTS's avatar

I'm actually surprised RFK even goes there at all. He's good at pointing out smaller issues (thimerosal) as a cover for a much bigger problem (vaccines). This actually works to the advantage of pharma. If the media doesn't point this out as things ramp up this fall, it will be very telling.

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Larry Inn's avatar

The Media Cartel is infected with MediaPhrenia. They need “treatment.” Rx Truth Pills ten times a day.

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Chad Johnson's avatar

This is all very interesting. Why don’t the HIV skeptics just inject themselves with HIV to prove it doesn’t cause AIDS? Or does it do something not worth the risk?

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X man's avatar

Apparently one Dr did in the 80's

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