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Apr 10Liked by Rebecca Culshaw Smith

I've done a lot of thinking about this. Why do some of us question and so many don't? A lot of guys take these drugs because they believe it frees them to have a kind of sex they were denied prior to PrEP. It's a powerful motivation to stay hooked in the paradigm that people believe keeps them safe.

I've mentioned this before, but for me the fact that I had to break away from heavy religious indoctrination gave me some experience with this process. We are social creatures, we need to belong to the dominant paradigm which is sort of the modern expression of needing to belong to the tribe. For gay men this means embracing the Left, given the historical prejudice of conservatism (which I totally get). That's exactly why I was so Left leaning for such a long time, I went from a hyper-conservative religious environment and made a b-line right over to the Left because it was the one place that carved out a place for me. But the price in that meant accepting the religion of the Left which is science. And most guys taking these drugs believe the Left is the party of science. As long as they adhere to its tenets, they're good, they're kept safe and it blinds them to any potential negatives.

Getting tested frequently is so similar to how we had to have bishops interviews frequently as teenagers, in order to be found worthy (or not). Getting frequently tested and having negative test results is like a ritual that reaffirms a guys 'worthiness' I think. It's interesting when you think about this from a linguistic standpoint, where negative equals good and positive equals bad. In order to 'atone' for the bad thing of being 'positive' you have to take the holy pills to keep you in good standing.

Ultimately though, most people are just going to flow with what they know and have been told, and that means trusting authority figures who tell them what the truth is. It takes a lot of internal fortitude to break away from authority figures. 'Here, take this drug, it's good for you, it'll keep you safe'. It's like going to church each week, and taking the sacrament and renewing your committments to the church/god and those will keeps you spiritually safe from the boogyman (Satan). To me that's the biggest parallel between my experience with religion and HIV/AIDS. Be obedient to what you're told and you'll be safe. If you don't, you'll become spiritually sick. Follow the science, if you don't you'll become sick. But the price to pay for this putative safety is compliance to religious standards that are actually toxic to a gay person's emotional and mental health. We say 'retained in care' for the medical system, but in the religion the equivalent term was 'enduring to the end'.

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Am I correct in inferring you were raised Mormon? I’m almost certain you’ve mentioned this, and I don’t know of other religions in which adherents must be interviewed by the bishop. I agree that there’s a cultish, religious aspect to all of this. Kary Mullis once said something to that effect about “public health authorities”—“it’s a good thing they wear priestly white garments; it makes them easier to spot.”

Relatedly—you might be interested in this interview with an ex-Mormon listing the parallels with the trans cult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZMNstceocE

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Yep, mormon it is. Most of my family are still in the church. I would call mormonism 'cult-adjacent'.

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In the video I linked, the guest says she thinks that missions are abusive and a form of trafficking. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on this. I was raised Roman Catholic, so very different experience.

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Apr 10Liked by Rebecca Culshaw Smith

Yes, mormonism has this missionary thing and I have a lot to say about that. Mormon guys are EXPECTED to go on missions when they're 19 (18 now). It's a full on expectation and we're taught about this from a young age. And fun fact, many closeted mormon guys go believing their extra crispy righteousness of missionary service will make them straight.

I knew from about 12 that I didn't want to go, the idea of having to go 'spread the gospel' was NOT something I wanted to do and it was a significant source of stress for me. It was military like in its expectations and what a missionary is supposed to do. So for two years a mormon missionary goes out into the world and has a long list of rules of behavior to adhere to, and go out trying to convert people to the church. AND, and this is a big and, they are expected to mostly pay for this themselves. The mormon church is known to have greater than 100 billion dollars in the bank (some estimate double that) and they have missionaries pay to be salesman for the church. It's a huge racket.

When I had teenager jobs, I was saving money and my parents would always refer to the money I was saving as my 'missionary fund', without ever asking me what I was going to do with the money. This really bugged me to no end, and finally one night when I was maybe 17 my mom or dad once again referred to that money as my 'missionary fund' and I just exploded like teenagers can and I YELLED back at them that it wasn't my 'missionary fund, it's my SAVINGS account', and I stormed out of the house.

During my teen years (3 of them), my dad was 'called' as a missionary president, where he was sent to a region to manage and preside over missionaries. We went to San Antonio, TX. So I lived in Texas for 3 years as a teenager where my dad managed the missionary 'effort' for a big chunk of Texas.

By the time I got to 18 I was pretty stressed because I had this looming decision to make about my life, whether I was going to go with the flow and just get put on a plane and become a church salesman, or whether I would tell them no. I went the second route, but more through a passive aggressive route by just not making any effort to get ready. I finally got trapped into a bishop's interview where he kept pressing why I wasn't making efforts to go. I finally broke down and told him I had 'SSA' (same sex attraction, the clinical term the church uses). He ended up sending me to a church counseling system called LDS Social Services who had clueless therapist.

I'm so glad I didn't go, I know I would have been miserable.

If you want a really good rundown of what a mormon mission is like, here's a great link by a woman who went.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uicAn4l9z4

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Thank you. I’ll definitely check it out.

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My wild guess: people assume that if they behave and take the drugs they can get cookies as a reward for being obedient and uncritical citizens. And by cookies I mean money or perks or status.

Mostly unrelated to this, when I started taking SSRIs 25 years go, I didn't do it because of economic/social nudges. I did it for two reasons: one, I didn't know the risks (for that matter, I think my psychiatrist didn't know either; plausible deniability is a lifestyle as valid as any other lifestyles ;-D ) and the second reason is that I really believed that the antidepressant drug would improve my situation. It didn't. Those drugs only caused troubles, some of which I think last to this day.

By the way, there was some speculation years ago (now kept tightly under wraps) that SSRIs perhaps cause colon cancer, even years after stopping the treatment. «Fooling around with neurotransmitters ain't so swell as we previously thought» will be the laconic headline in some News website of the year 2035 or so.

But, going back to the so called "medication" for AIDS, the first lines of my comment may be very cynical, but I think I can do even a more cynical comment.

Perhaps psychiatric patients believe more intensely that they are ill, because they actually feel badly, but AIDS patients who feel fine just want to "feel bad" because they think that's what they are supposed to do to make doctors and activists happy, and so their particular degree of belief may be zero.

The non-empty intersection of the two subsets is interesting: the young people who feel bad in the soul but not too bad in the body and don't know what else to do but obey the propaganda, like any other young person trapped by psychiatry.

The Science(TM) has turned out to be worse than "conversion therapy."

I laugh but I think this is all a great injustice.

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When I was pregnant with my first child, I had severe antenatal anxiety about his safety. My doctor suggested Zoloft. I still can’t believe that she wanted to treat what was, in retrospect, a perfectly normal maternal reaction to pregnancy, with a drug that had the potential to harm my child—which was exactly what I was worried about.

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Apr 10Liked by Rebecca Culshaw Smith

Happy to do an interview with you some time. I was diagnosed at 24 in 2012 and took ARVs (atripla, complera, triumeq) up until I decided to stop after learning about terrain theory in late 2021 (thank you Dr. Sam Bailey and others). I did the labs quarterly and took my daily pill like clockwork. It is definitely Stockholm syndrome.

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I would love to interview you if you’d be willing! Please email me—you can just reply to the post you got in your email, or write me at walkerpercyfan at gmail. Thanks!

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Apr 10Liked by Rebecca Culshaw Smith

Awesome. I will email you tonight after work/gym!

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That's fascinating. I'm guessing you just tested positive during one of your regular STI checks we're expected to do. Did you have any presenting illness or did the test just come back positive? Did your doc know you came off the pills or did you just walk away from the 'managed care'?

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Yes, as a gay man I was indoctrinated into sti testing like some sort of religious practice by the age of 17. By 24, my pcr test came back positive for the first time in all those years of routine testing. Then they drew blood after setting me up with their infectious disease doctor (in house at AHF) which I complied and did because I was terrified at the time. Western blot showed positive with ~58,000 copies in VL if I remember correctly.

After that, I was told I needed HPV vaccine because I was quickly approaching 25 so I took gardisil at their request. Atripla gave me the worst diarrhea and I thought my sex life and life in general would be over. About a year later I was put on complera and had much fewer side effects as long as I took it with food, then I met my ex and he was on triumeq which was new at the time so I switched to that by the time we moved in together around 2015 or 2016. I had no side effects from triumeq besides elevated AST and ALT liver enzymes. Those seem to have gone back to normal ranges on my recent lab work since getting off the pills 2.5 years ago. I also asked for an ultrasound to check my liver and kidneys for damage after ~10 years on these pills, thankfully none.

By 2022, I went on a carnivore diet and ate lots of raw meat and no carbs or fiber, and I think looking back that led to some new issues but I am back to the way I used to eat which is a balanced diet including lean protein, fruits AND veggies (which carnivore diet demonized). I feel better. I did contract one new sti I never encountered before and I am still searching for answers to explain that, but my guess is that my high protein diet did something to my terrain and that could explain the symptoms I had, but I don’t know. My doctor treated me with bicillin, and the symptoms went away. That traumatized me to not even want to have casual sex anymore because I wasn’t sure how my body/terrain will react and felt something was wrong. I have spent the last 8 months changing my lifestyle, trying to stay close to God and fixing my diet again. My old ID Dr told me I could not be their patient anymore this February because I would not get on biktarvy. I found a DO and just did labs this week—waiting on those results to decide what to do from here. Sometimes the fear comes back and I don’t know if I made the right decision but I am still learning as I go. I’m still human! Anyway, happy to let you all know the journey of the last 12 years someday, I just want answers and want to help other gay men trapped in this sh*tty system.

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Apr 10·edited Apr 10

That's fascinating. I think your experience mirrors what a lot of others have been through. Dr. Sam's videos have been waking a lot of people up. I suspect that if you'd stayed on these drugs for decades they surely caused permanent damage. I'm glad you got off.

Regarding the mystery STI, have you seen Dr. Sams videos on all the common ones out there? I had questioned 'HIV' for 20 years, but never thought to question anything else. I was stunned when began watching her presentations. I've 'had' a couple run of the mill STI's in my life too and I never had any symptoms, just the reactive tests, but now that I've seen her videos I understand. Also, antibiotics often have anti-inflammatory properties apart from their supposed anti-bacterial functions that can account for any benefit seen.

I've also followed the carnivore diet but never did it fully. Meat is a big part of my diet, but I just didn't feel good on full carnivore so I eat a lot of meat with some carbs. Works for me.

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Apr 10Liked by Rebecca Culshaw Smith

Sometimes I wonder if other gay men have gone down this path—so far I haven’t met even one gay man on this journey but I still try to stick to the truth communities online regardless. Can’t seem to find community anywhere, sadly. But I remain hopeful my turn is coming!

My ‘mystery’ sti was syphilis. I’ve had and dealt with the others here and there for the last ~20 years, which were all treated with some sort of antibiotic. Syphilis hit different. I was really sick and had visible symptoms. But since terrain theory states that the germ isn’t making me sick, why did I get sick? What was it about my terrain that allowed this bacteria to make its home inside me and how come I avoided it for long before I quit ARVs? These are a few of the many questions I cannot find answers for from anyone, including Dr. Bailey’s video on syphilis and its history. For this reason, I mostly abstain until I understand it better so I can release the fear. I’ve watched all her videos on virology and read her books too. They’re on my nightstand actually. I don’t believe in virology anymore, but bacteria can be isolated and I need to understand why it affects some and not others better.

I think between the raw meat and excessive Costco-sized rib eyes with tortellini and pasta for so many months I depleted my body’s vitamins and minerals and therefore attribute lowered immunity to that. But truthfully, I’m not 100% sure. My labs are nearly perfect. My WBC count varies anywhere from 3.2-5.25 so I truthfully don’t know, sadly. I’m here to figure it out and get to the truth and better understanding. I should also mention that I have been focused on bodybuilding and gaining weight for the last year aggressively. I think I messed up somewhere along the line and stressed my body too much in one way or another.

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There are peer reviewed studies showing that intense exercise like marathon training can cause transient very low T cell counts.

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I'm can't imagine you're alone in your experience. I think one of the challenges is there don't seem to be forums for guys who got off ARVs, it's like it's outside the system and so there's just a black hole of support and visibility.

RE the syphilis, have you left any comments on Sam's Substack page for that video to get anyone's feedback?

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Apr 11Liked by Rebecca Culshaw Smith

Yes, I leave comments to her videos here and there but no replies yet. Random people will occasionally chime in trying to help asking if I watched this video or that video. I’ve watched them all. I watch almost everything by Andrew Kaufman and some of Tom Cowan’s stuff. But I can’t crack this one. Truthfully, I feel very alone in this one lol. I get that it’s my own terrain that was the issue, and I’m actively working to correct it still today, but I am fatigued with information and need breaks now. I might as well study to be a doctor at this rate of research I do. The symptoms I had were, according to my research, my skin expelling some toxin—red painless spots all over my torso and back. Not my face or limbs thankfully—but still quite embarrassing because I generally prefer to be shirtless at home or in a tank/cutoff in the gym. It completely shattered my self esteem at the time because I thought I had this germ theory thing under control and was confident that exposing myself to bacteria would strengthen my immunity versus harm it. However, I don’t think my nutrition was on point and so that’s why I keep falling back on that point.

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Apr 10Liked by Rebecca Culshaw Smith

Dr. Norton M. Hadler, addressed this question in his two early-2000's books, The Last Well Person, and Worried Sick. He calls it the Methusaleh Complex, the idea pushed on the public by the medical establishment that perfect health is achievable through regular testing, surgeries, and medications. Thus, the medical establishment built a base of permanent lifelong "patients." Most of Dr. Hadler's books document longitudinal studies which confirm the inability of nearly all medical tests, procedures, surgeries, and medications to improve health outcomes over simple (profitless) diet and lifestyle changes. Thank you, Miss Rebecca.

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Oh I know, what healthy person needs their blood drawn every six months? It’s ridiculous.

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Apr 10·edited Apr 10Liked by Rebecca Culshaw Smith

ignorance, indoctrination, tech nudging, advertising, social media influencers, culture of victimhood ... all come to mind. When one lie is told, i.e. the AIDS narrative, and then new ones are piled on top it becomes a tangled mess. For those not in the industry of medicine or science, we are bred to haver higher expectations in our own fields. It is mind-boggling to see the corruption especially when all citizens are patients at one time or another. I had a colleague once who had a brother die of AIDS in the 80s. Now I know he likely died from protocols but I had no reason ever to believe otherwise until recent years when it was so clear something was afoot. I would add education system to the above list. From gradeschool to post-doc, how many learn the truth?

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I know of folks on the UK that will take the drugs so they don't lose certain social security payments. Naff all wrong with them.

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Thank you for all your good work, which I’ve been following for years. Can I ask for a reference for where you said that “HIV” “viral load” is “not infrequently “ found in “HIV” antibody negative persons ?

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