I discussed the JP &S de Harven piece live on January 20. I am well aware of his work. What part of what I said was “rubbish?” Also, try to keep your tone respectful in comments. Thank you.
The t-cell depletion is really not that difficult to explain . The gay / Ivdu guys suffered a ton of infections which led to bone marrow and thymus burn out - those places where t cells are produced and matured . The immune system overload hypothesis is perfectly plausible and provable and was very popular before Gallo and Francis shut it down . If only you and Eric would open your minds to promoting awareness of what was the original theory of AIDS causation then the anti HIV movement might at last gain some traction . It’s all in my book A Dive Into Darkness.
The rubbish was the HERV article which it appeared you hadn't looked at before the event. Perhaps you could have mentioned Etienne's work for the benefit of the uninitiated? It would be nice to get some respect from the likes of Eric 'No such things as viruses' Coppolino who seems to think he has divine status when it comes to HIV/AIDS and contemptuously dismisses my 4 years+ research into AIDS.
The work on HERVs and ancestral genes is very new. Also, de Harven - Memory eternal - isolated the first retrovirus, the Friend leukemia virus, so it’s pretty clear that was not a “no virus ever” researcher.
I return to your comment at the end of the 'feed', 'we don't have a plausible alternative', which I find to be disingenuous at best.
In a 1983 article published in JAMA, Joseph Sonnabend, was supportive of an etiology, anathema to many gay activists, that implicated a sexual lifestyle of multiple partners. He theorized that multiple, recurrent sexually acquired infections could overwhelm the immune system, leaving it susceptible to opportunistic microbes. The amplification system being the bathhouses.
In terms of IVDUS the amplification system was New York's shooting galleries, where needles were shared between dozens of users - another excellent way of transfering infection from one body to another. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6300480/
Immune system overload led to immune system burnout. It was noted that lymph nodes often resembled burst balloons and antibodies were no long being produced at time of death.
In 1987, Sonnabend was again at odds with colleagues over early clinical trial results that appeared to demonstrate that AZT (azidothymidine) would be an effective drug against the viral cause of AIDS. Given the absence of alternative chemotherapies to manage HIV and HIV’s high case fatality rate, AZT produced unwarranted hope in AIDS practitioners. Not alone, but among the most outspoken, Sonnabend questioned its safety and efficacy. He later asserted, “I didn’t believe the [results of the] original AZT trials. . . . The approval of AZT was I suppose [a concession] to the pharmaceutical industry and to the activists . . . who were screaming for their AZT.”
Apologies. I heard you say you'd finished answering questions with 10 mins to go . I'll go back and listen to your answer.
No problem!
https://www.jpands.org/vol15no3/deharven.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maCY15pduNU&pp=ygUSRXRpZW5uZSBkZSBIQXJ2ZW4g
I assume you know all about this guy’s work? Rosetta Stone / Eureka stuff. As opposed to that rubbish you mentioned in your ‘live’.
I discussed the JP &S de Harven piece live on January 20. I am well aware of his work. What part of what I said was “rubbish?” Also, try to keep your tone respectful in comments. Thank you.
Also, I asked the question 'Why has the HIV/AIDS' denial movement failed so dismally to move the dial?' You did not answer that question.
I did answer that question right at the end.
The t-cell depletion is really not that difficult to explain . The gay / Ivdu guys suffered a ton of infections which led to bone marrow and thymus burn out - those places where t cells are produced and matured . The immune system overload hypothesis is perfectly plausible and provable and was very popular before Gallo and Francis shut it down . If only you and Eric would open your minds to promoting awareness of what was the original theory of AIDS causation then the anti HIV movement might at last gain some traction . It’s all in my book A Dive Into Darkness.
The rubbish was the HERV article which it appeared you hadn't looked at before the event. Perhaps you could have mentioned Etienne's work for the benefit of the uninitiated? It would be nice to get some respect from the likes of Eric 'No such things as viruses' Coppolino who seems to think he has divine status when it comes to HIV/AIDS and contemptuously dismisses my 4 years+ research into AIDS.
The work on HERVs and ancestral genes is very new. Also, de Harven - Memory eternal - isolated the first retrovirus, the Friend leukemia virus, so it’s pretty clear that was not a “no virus ever” researcher.
Hello.
I return to your comment at the end of the 'feed', 'we don't have a plausible alternative', which I find to be disingenuous at best.
In a 1983 article published in JAMA, Joseph Sonnabend, was supportive of an etiology, anathema to many gay activists, that implicated a sexual lifestyle of multiple partners. He theorized that multiple, recurrent sexually acquired infections could overwhelm the immune system, leaving it susceptible to opportunistic microbes. The amplification system being the bathhouses.
In terms of IVDUS the amplification system was New York's shooting galleries, where needles were shared between dozens of users - another excellent way of transfering infection from one body to another. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6300480/
Immune system overload led to immune system burnout. It was noted that lymph nodes often resembled burst balloons and antibodies were no long being produced at time of death.
In 1987, Sonnabend was again at odds with colleagues over early clinical trial results that appeared to demonstrate that AZT (azidothymidine) would be an effective drug against the viral cause of AIDS. Given the absence of alternative chemotherapies to manage HIV and HIV’s high case fatality rate, AZT produced unwarranted hope in AIDS practitioners. Not alone, but among the most outspoken, Sonnabend questioned its safety and efficacy. He later asserted, “I didn’t believe the [results of the] original AZT trials. . . . The approval of AZT was I suppose [a concession] to the pharmaceutical industry and to the activists . . . who were screaming for their AZT.”
My podcast series 'A Dive Into Darkness' https://podcasts.apple.com/co/podcast/a-dive-into-darkness/id1779499484?i=1000682070630 goes into this 'plausible alternative' in great detail and this research formed the basis of my conspiracy thriller 'A DIve Into Darkness' which does for HIV what The Da Vinci Code did for Christianity. https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-dive-into-darkness-paul-franks/1145527746
I would love to talk to you about this in one of your live events.
Regards, Paul
Looking forward to listening to the recording.
Nancy Drew of HIV
Love it ! . . . .