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Two thumbs up as I follow both you and Neenyah! I still have hope that the truth will come out some day on the non-hiv aids-like cases and what pathogen is responsible. I look forward to posts from both of you!

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It's all very well saying what isn't the cause of AIDS but at some point you have to say what caused it. You need to state clearly that the 1981 GRID cases were no mystery. How do you do that?

You combine this 1977 paper 'INFECTIOUS DISEASE SYNDROMES ATTRIBUTABLE TO CYTOMEGALOVIRUS' file:///C:/Users/User/Downloads/infectious_disease_syndromes_attributable_to.10%20(8).pdf

with this 1981 paper

'Prevalence of Cytomegalovirus Infection in Homosexual Men'

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article-abstract/143/2/188/815104?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

and this paper 'Analysis of T lymphocyte subsets in cytomegalovirus mononucleosis' also published in 1981

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6262407/

and you have GRID.

This is precisely what Michael Gottlieb did in this December 1981 paper

'Pneumocystis carinii Pneumonia and Mucosal Candidiasis in Previously Healthy Homosexual Men — Evidence of a New Acquired Cellular Immunodeficiency' https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm198112103052401

where he named CMV as the main cause of GRID.

Unfortunately Gottlieb got excommunicated by the establishment as a consequence and only by recanting was he allowed back into the fold.

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